Lindsey 00:12
Welcome to the Mindset Coach Academy Podcast. I'm Lindsey Wilson. And I am a high-performance mindset coach, a mom, a former professional athlete, and an entrepreneur. I help coaches and high performers optimize their mindset to improve their coaching their performance and those other athletes and their lives. Here, you'll learn all about mindset, how to live it, how to teach it, and how to sell it.
Lindsey 00:37
Alright guys, welcome again to the mindset coach Academy podcast. Guys, we are so lucky to have Courtney Thompson again, according I are trying to just like do this cohosting thing. So if you love it, subscribe, share it with your friends. I think this is pretty cool. It makes my job a lot easier. And it's just like fun to catch up with you, Courtney, how are you?
Courtney 00:55
I'm great. Thank you. I feel the same every time we do this. I just get energized and geek out. And yeah, I'm stoked to be here.
Lindsey 01:03
Yeah, so just a little behind the scenes, guys, you're listening, or watching. Sometimes I tell Courtney ahead of time, what we're gonna talk about sometimes I really don't. We're trying to figure out what the best way to do it is. I kind of feel like there are benefits on both sides. But this one like the regret one, you were definitely I did not give you much preparation at all. coaching me for 45 minutes on.
Courtney 01:27
Yeah, which I also appreciated the challenge in it. I was like, oh, dig was a, it was a hard pivot from what I thought we were doing. But I kind of appreciate that, like, you and I talked about being in the arena a lot. Like that's part of it is coaching. So I was stoked on it. And yeah, I kind of see the benefit of both.
Lindsey 01:45
Well, yeah, well, and today, we talked about it a little bit and your eyes just like lit up when I talked to you about what we're gonna talk about today. And the premise of today really is how do we allow things to be simple. The idea is, you know, Courtney played obviously, at a really, really high level.
Lindsey 02:02
Before I even knew you, I had heard about your work ethic. So I know that you're a hard worker, as you'd like to say, and something that I'm sure you're proud of, and something that got you to play at the level that you played at, which was the Olympic level, you wouldn't have gotten there without that work ethic.
Lindsey 02:17
And I think today I just really want to talk about because so many of our listeners, so many people in our certification and our community, our athletes, former athletes, coaches, and a lot of us have this pride of working hard, which is great. The challenge is we often make things difficult, we make things hard, and allowing things to be easy or simple. Like, I don't know, it just seems like it's very difficult for some of us. What are your thoughts?
Courtney 02:44
Oh, my gosh, I, first of all, there always was saying one of these said the topic as like, Okay, how many hours do we have, right? Because I find this nuance. It's such a beautiful nuance. And it's so challenging. And it's kind of one of those things where like if someone's never been burned out, or like never trained too hard, then like teaching them about recovery is like, well, like, are you really in the arena of finding your best if you haven't really gone past that line?
Courtney 03:14
And so part of this is, it's tough, but I guess my initial thoughts are, it's almost easier. And maybe You and I are very similar in this way, I think it's almost easier to live in the override, retired, I'm going to go anyway, champions get up when it's tough, I'm going to be resilient, like the grit side of being your best is a huge piece of doing anything special. Yep.
Courtney 03:39
And if you only do that, then you get to the championship, or you win, and it's like falling off a cliff. You're exhausted and or you lost the joy in it. And I think the other part when you look at people that have done amazing things is that they have this ability to let go in a way and it creates so much space for you to reconnect to your why and your purpose.
Courtney 04:05
To bring the kind of energy you want to moments. I'm already geeking out sorry. But like it, there's so much beauty in the moments where you go, I don't know what's going to happen, but like I'm here for at all. And like the depth of experience that happens when you can be gritty and hold on to that I think is like amazing, but it's really hard to live in.
Lindsey 04:27
That's the magic of it, isn't it? I think yeah, holding both of those things. And I think for me, like so much of the allowing things to be easy. The way that I frame it, which I think has really helped me is like when you allow whatever can be simple, you allow it to be simple so that your energy is put towards the thing that no one else can do.
Lindsey 04:54
No one but you can really do like you can put your energy towards doing bold things. big things and scary things when you're like, in the fray of like all the BS and the minutia. It's a lot of like being spread thin, like, I will tell my certification students, which is what my coach told me is like, can you move one thing a mile instead of 100 things in inch?
Lindsey 05:20
And like, to me, that really helps me because I do have that fire. And I do but not everything can equally get that fire. So that's been helpful because I don't think we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater, which is like the worst phrase ever. You know, like we want ourselves and people around us to have a really good work ethic. But not everything has to be hard.
Courtney 05:46
Yeah, so okay, I want to ask you a question on this. Because to me when I hear you say that I'm nodding my head, and I hear control, and then your intentional use of allowing kids to me when I'm in it, and I'm like, insecure, I want to control everything. I want to do everything I want.
Courtney 06:04
And it's really hard to let go. And stay focused on as you're saying, like the essence of what makes you you makes me me. So can you talk about how you manage that? Because I think as high-level athletes too, it's like, you come from this belief that we dictate shit. Like, oh, I will win the game. I have this power, which you don't?
Lindsey 06:23
Right.
Courtney 06:24
So it's a it's a fine line? And then can you also share more about why you chose the word to allow? Because I think it's really powerful.
Lindsey 06:32
Yes, I think there's, there's a whole component to self-sabotage on this, which I wanted to just sort of put in real quick before I forget because we can talk about later. This idea that, like, I'm gonna just spread myself really, really thin. And then I'm going to not be that successful, or I'm gonna be burnout or I'm gonna be tired, I'm gonna do whatever. And then well, it didn't work out. Right.
Lindsey 06:55
But I really think I forget the first part of question. But the allowing part is really a big part. Because that's where the mindset piece comes in to me, like, for example, like, all talk to one of our certified coaches who's like building their business, right, and they're trying to, like, do a webinar and do a new course. And they're working with this team, and this team and these athletes, and, they're trying to be everything to everybody.
Lindsey 07:23
And the challenge is always cake. Can you keep this simple? Like, if you're going to launch a new program, can you, but for the first time, and there's so much you don't know, everybody's like, Well, I'm gonna get a new website, and then I'm gonna like we just talked about, and I'm gonna get a new logo, and then I'm gonna connect that I'm gonna get to have a webinar on and I'm gonna launch and then I need to get a VA.
Lindsey 07:49
And then I need to, you know, they like, do these like, million things that like, you know, Tony Robbins is doing for his launch. And it's like, can you stop and allow it to be simple? What is the simplest way to do this? This is the first time you've done it. Maybe, can you and this is, again, it's a self sabotage.
Lindsey 08:14
And I think it's also making things more complicated, because you don't want to do the one scary thing that it takes. So imagine this, you want to do a launch, and you want to do the social media thing, and you want to do this to visit, you know what else you could do?
Lindsey 08:30
You could call up 10 people that you know and ask them to join your group coaching program. You could do that. That is the simplest way to launch this new program. It is also the scariest. So that's why I say Allow, how can you allow this to be simple? And sometimes that simple thing, I think is like the hardest, and that's why we do want to do it.
Courtney 08:55
Yeah, that makes...
Lindsey 08:56
You know what I mean?
Courtney 08:57
It's like, Yeah, it sounds like a little bit of grace to like, not try to do all the things at once and also stay true to the essence of it. Instead of building, it's a procrastinating. I have to do this one thing, but I'm going to clean the house first. Yes. Totally.
Lindsey 09:13
And fastest way to your goal.
Courtney 09:16
Yeah, to get good at the thing.
Lindsey 09:18
The simplest.
Courtney 09:19
Yeah.
Lindsey 09:20
It's kind of like and I also think, like kind of with this, I think is not allowing yourself to get overwhelmed, not allowing yourself to overcomplicate things. I think that's another thing. Like when we are hard workers, we're like, I'm gonna hustle.
Lindsey 09:33
I'm gonna work 60 hours a week. I'm gonna go do and then I'm gonna feel really good because I'm working. If you can't see me because I'm doing quotation marks. I'm working really hard. And most of that work is total bullshit. That's what I see a lot. And I am saying it, like enthusiastically because I've done it.
Courtney 09:56
I'm gonna say when you first started, how did you like It goes the evolution of this for you. Because I hear you, I think the, into creating space for yourself to create and imagine and like, connect to something that's really meaningful. Like, it's hard to do that when we're exhausted or when we're in this like stressed state or anxious state of checking all these boxes when there's such a balance because you know, you got to do some things. But so what was the evolution of this for you as a coach?
Lindsey 10:31
That's a good question.
Courtney 10:32
And did you learn this point? Or was this all in [inaudible] for you?
Lindsey 10:39
Well, I mean, I think it really kind of mirrors my evolution with a mindset of like, you know, prior to learning mindset, it was like, just work hard. That's the answer. And similar to my company, like, I tried that. It didn't work. Like it works to a point.
Courtney 10:59
Yeah, that's it.
Lindsey 11:00
Right. And so that's where I think it's a really good I think, also honoring, like, that's a really good part of you and I, and so many people listening to this, it is a really good part. I think you get to that next level, you're like letting go, you're letting things be easy.
Lindsey 11:16
Like you said, like, I kind of the end of the game or whatever, when you're trying to like win the game, that instinct or intention is good. But it's also like, can I allow the game to come to me? Can I? Easy, like, that's what you're talking about.
Lindsey 11:36
When you talk about control to like, I think there's like a big soup of like, what I think listening to this potentially see either themselves or other people like and then with that soup, I think then it's like, complicated and overwhelming. And I'm pushing against it. And I'm trying to find control. And it's like, maybe just step back.
Courtney 11:58
Yeah, no, there's this sense of it. That gave me chills when you said that letting the game come to, I think it so when we talk about mindset skills is like, you're on your edge, what are the tangible things you do to help you feel like yourself, and then underneath that is like your framework, and how you believe the way you see the world, basically, and what you just brought up for me, it was like, when you're in this hustle and the constricting, like, I gotta go, I gotta do this, I gotta do this. It's a kind of operating replacement.
Courtney 12:30
I've been in this where it's like, if I when I get to here, I will rest I will be successful, I will be happy I will be, and then hypothetically speaking...
Lindsey 12:41
[inaudible] Olympics, didn't you?
Courtney 12:42
Yeah, I was just about to make a joke. I was like, hypothetically speaking, you get the Olympics, and you're like, Oh, shit.
Courtney 12:47
Now what? And I see it, in the last seven years working with corporations, it's the same. I mean, it's a human experience. Like, this external thing is going to change how I feel in the world. And relax. Yeah, and it only really comes from doing a lot of like, inner work.
Lindsey 13:04
That's the reward. Yeah, when you get there, you're not gonna be able to relax either. Because if that's like your mentality.
Courtney 13:09
Exactly, and that's what I'm saying, like, it's a cool nod to like, allowing the game to come to you is this a deep trust that like, ooh, and there's a playfulness, like, I don't know, if I have what it takes, I don't know if I can go do all these things. But I can do this.
Courtney 13:23
And I can, I can control how I show up in the moment. And it's so fun when you're in that. And as I'm saying it, I just have so much compassion when you're out of it. Because to me, it's really cyclical. And I think I've gotten better at catching it, but I find myself wanting to control or exhausted and like, Okay, I got to do these things. And like, well, we'll minute. So, like, do you still find yourself in that? And if so, like, what do you do first,
Lindsey 13:50
I find myself overcomplicating things for sure. But like, if I ever I'm going to do like, and there's no such a balance, right? Because like you're doing it with your business is like, you want to have things nice like you want to have this done before this done and this done before this done and as you want like this fully flushed out, business with all your T's crossed and all your eyes dotted.
Lindsey 14:15
And I think that being okay with the iteration of like, I'm gonna get better. And then I'm gonna learn and I'm going to get to the next level. I think a lot of I see a lot of our mindset coaches, like, let's we've broken it down into stages, like if you're in stage one or two, like, don't focus on social media. You don't even need a website, like, do things in order otherwise, you're not keeping things simple, and you're actually focusing on the wrong things.
Lindsey 14:44
So I think for me, I often overcomplicate things, but I'm much better about asking the question of like, and this is the question that I think this episode is sort of about is like, how can I make this easier? How can I make this simpler? Would it be possible to do this more simply? Yeah, I'll give you like a really silly kind of silly example from my life.
Lindsey 15:10
So, as you can imagine, in my house, we have a perpetual, humongous pile of laundry. Like, come over to our house, it's just always there. Right? Like, we don't have a laundry? Well, we kind of do, but it downstairs in the basement in the garage. And so like, laundry is done in the living room, right?
Lindsey 15:28
And it can get like super overwhelming and just like, dislike a lot, right? There are six people. So eventually, my mom asked was, first of all, like, my mom was like, Do you really need to fold your two-year-olds clothes? Right? Like, does it matter if her little cute little pants or wrinkly? I'm thinking, No, it absolutely does not matter.
Lindsey 15:59
If any of my children's clothes are wrinkly. I don't care, right. And so now what we do is we have like bins for each girl. And we literally throw the clothes in the bin. And of course, then there are other things we're trying to teach them to put it away themselves. And some of them fold it my seven-year-old. That's great.
Lindsey 16:18
So like the question of this, like system that was not working. And it's still overwhelming. Don't get me wrong, but it's a lot better. Of like, do I really need to spend hours and hours folding? three-month-old, the seven-month-old clothes? No, I do not.
Lindsey 16:35
And just my mom asking that question shifted me into like, how can I make this simpler? Right challenging this idea that everyone's you needs to be folded, or, you know, whatever. And so that and that made a huge difference. Right? Like, I could get all perfectionists about it.
Lindsey 16:54
I could think oh whatever the story is, I have in my mind, like moms, you know, or parents, if they take care of their children, they're folding their underwear, or whatever the thought is, that's, or I could say, according my priorities laundry isn't high on the list, but just has to be done.
Lindsey 17:11
How can I make this simpler? And so again, that's kind of a silly example. But I think it's like, that's what we do, very often is we make things more complicated than you need to be, instead of just asking the question.
Courtney 17:24
Yeah, I think that's a brilliant example. And also, yeah, like you said earlier, it keeps us from putting our attention on things that are hard to look at, or scary or, you know, like, it's easier to kind of find the low-hanging fruit to ruminate on.
Lindsey 17:41
Yeah, and we did this in our certification, too. And we have like this brain dump thing. I don't know if I've ever done this with you, where we do the five ds, and I won't go into all, but it's like you delete things that don't need to be done. You delegate to other people.
Lindsey 17:56
Anyway, there's a whole system that we teach, but I think the crux of that process of the five Ds is like, can we like trim the fat? You know, instead of like, thinking, everything has to be done, and everything has to be done right now. And everything has to be done by me.
Lindsey 18:14
How do we recognize that we have limited time, limited energy, limited brain space, whatever our limitation is we all have? So how do we keep it simple and focused on the things that are really important? Yeah. You know, it's like an athlete being in the gym all day? Yeah. Can we work really, really hard in the weight room for an hour or an hour and a half?
Courtney 18:37
I love that. He's been intentional about it.
Lindsey 18:40
Yeah, I just think so many people, myself included, that's not our instinct of like, how do we make this simple? How are you doing this in your as you're building your business right now? Is there any like examples that you have as far as places you've made it? More common? Yeah.
Courtney 18:57
I think for me, the biggest thing I've noticed is when you know I'm in a similar space to you are teaching athletes and coaches, you know, mindset and, and skills to navigate the inevitable challenges is when I try to do teach more, in an hour, I'm like, oh, let's get it all in there.
Courtney 19:15
And it does, like any of these skills can feel so trite when you just I mean, they're easy to understand. It's not like I'm changing the world saying control you can like over the rest are. Hey, try to be where your feet are.
Lindsey 19:27
You are.
Courtney 19:27
Yeah, yeah. But I mean, like, it's not like nobody's heard that.
Courtney 19:30
And there's like miles and miles of depth on each of these skills, if you really understand and have lived kind of these nuances. So for me, that's how it shows up. And I've almost first created the business I think oversimplified because I've only been in the essence of it. I haven't done any of the like, adult things around the actual business.
Lindsey 19:53
So now that you are though, do you feel like there are ways that you're making things harder because you like to work hard and because you like, because I think I think a lot of it is like, the pride of being a hard worker. Yeah. Right, like that manifesting at all, as you're doing all these back-end business, the adult things.
Courtney 20:13
Yeah, I will just, you know what, I just avoid doing the like, actual business stuff. And I, I'm like, Oh, we could do this content, or what do you, you know, I've even like, I'm working with two other amazing women right now collaborating.
Courtney 20:27
And I have this whole checklist of business things, and I just keep sending them content. Like, what if we did this? What if we did this? And last night, I was like, Wow, you're really avoiding. So that's kind of how it's I'm overcomplicating, for me so far. I'm sure I will do it in another way soon.
Lindsey 20:43
Well, I think for me a lot too, is like, the hard work of like creating, like, I, it's good, because there's like a lot that I like, I don't know, start with, let's put it that way. And then it like certain things settle. And I think, much like you said, like, the ability to keep things simple, is like a huge discipline for me.
Lindsey 21:10
Like when I'm teaching something. And of course, I teach this to my certified coaches to try to keep it simple for them to work with athletes, but I like it is a constant thing for me. Like to not do 50 billion things. And even when I'm teaching something, to just to limit it, almost, that's what it feels like to live.
Lindsey 21:31
And it's, it's really not though it's like, that's kind of the beauty of really good design, or really good teaching is like, it's very simple. You can seem like anybody could do it. But it takes so long to get there. And I think it also takes that allowing of like this thing by itself standing alone. Frickin works.
Lindsey 21:56
You don't need anything else. Implement this really, really well. And that takes discipline because we all want to like, it's like the monkey mind, right? It's like, I want to do this. And then I want to do this. And then I want to implement this. And I can give you another thing to work on to true, like, I need another training or I need another certification or I need another offering.
Courtney 22:13
Yeah, I've been in that then. Yeah, I've been in that. Okay, retreats, and let's do this. And that's like, wait, what, what do I want on the first page of the website? Like, can I get that clear? And you're right, it's similar to when I was competing. At my best, there's like two, two things I was working towards.
Courtney 22:31
That were under my control versus like, I remember sending my coaches. I had just been through this like, really gnarly phase. And I almost quit the national team, after my first Olympics, and I sent them a list of 12 goals that were just so gnarly. I mean, it might have been more than 12.
Courtney 22:49
Like, it was like every day, I would do this, I'm gonna do this. And I was just like, I don't care what they say, This isn't what I'm going to do. And I'm like, you know, I was on the train line.And I remember they wrote me back, I could tell they were like trying to organize or like, coordinate.
Courtney 23:02
We love your ambition. We love your fire. This seems like a lot. You know? And so it is like, I think something that just when you're in this kind of industry have this personality, it's like, Alright, how do I wrestle with this forever?
Lindsey 23:15
It is. I think it does come back to that. Allowing, because I know for myself, I have I guess to some degree, the underlying thought is more is better. Right? Like, yes, more work, more offerings, more, this more, whatever more is always better, more reps more time and like, like, when I'm like, as we're going through this, I did not have this written down in my notes.
Lindsey 23:47
But I do think that that's like, I think there's two thoughts. I think it's more is better. And then I think like, the pride in being a hard worker. Instead of like a smart worker, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, work hard in certain areas. And then let other things be easy. Let other people I think that's maybe what as I'm talking that's maybe like the the crux of it for me.
Courtney 24:11
Yeah, it all feels really true for me. And coming from this like external. What is it going to look like on the outside? What do I need to do out here? Like, what are the boxes I need to check rather than coming from this like, really true place of, okay, this is this matters to me.
Courtney 24:28
This is the essence this is simple. Let's let it kind of like blossom from there. And once you like, once you have that set and clear, it's like okay, what's next? What's next? And I think often is athletes in sport. It's like, hey, we know the end goal and we work backward.
Courtney 24:44
And this is, I mean, some of that's important. And maybe we have like an objective but then can we come from this inner place of like aliveness and simplicity and clarity and let the doing flow from there? It's really powerful. This is, this has been helpful for me so far.
Lindsey 25:02
I think it has been for me too. And I think I know, I think the other thing as you're talking about this, I noticed this a lot in Well, I definitely notice it like, my girlfriend's, like, you know, momming and careers and like, just life, right? is like, we're feeling like a lot going on, right? And like, listeners, whatever is going on your life, kids, or work or career or moving or whatever, right.
Lindsey 25:29
And I hear this for my certified coaches, too, because some of them are talking about, like, how much they're using these tools in their life, not just with their clients. So like, things are feeling like a lot right now. And I think for so much of us, and maybe this is like society telling us, the answer is to do more. Right?
Lindsey 25:47
Like, we have to get the laundry done. And we have to do this and like, if only we were more productive, or we had more time or whatever, and maybe the answer is not to do more. But it's to do less. Right, like, there was only so much more that we can take on that we can do well that we can manage in a healthful way.
Lindsey 26:14
You know, like, there is a limit to that. So maybe the answer is not more, maybe the answer is less. I think that's really what a lot of this is, is like, and we were competing. And did you ever feel that way? Like, okay, probably your instinct was I need to get back in the gym and do more.
Courtney 26:31
Yeah. Which is like an anxious approach, Like, let me do, you know, finding mastery, we talk a lot about like, Can I do more to be more as opposed to like, what you're saying is like slipping it, can I be more present? Can I be more aligned? Can I be more intentional? And fill up that cup or whatever, and rest and recover? And then let the doing flow from there.
Courtney 26:56
And it's just easier to do it. So to be productive? And it's, I mean, how often can we sit in silence with ourselves anymore? And like, really let it settle. And just to consider or to daydream or to like check-in. It's really challenging for people, myself included, and I've like devoted my life to this stuff. Right.
Courtney 27:21
And I still find that like that scratchiness or whatever. And I also know at my best, it's like, deeply connected to that. And, yeah, I just, it's not easy. And our culture is so opposite of this. I mean, our culture is set up to be like, you're not doing enough. And we still celebrate the like, I'm exhausted.
Courtney 27:43
You know, it's like when he asked people how they are. I'm fine. I'm tired. I'm exhausted. What else?
Lindsey 27:49
I'm busy.
Courtney 27:49
Busy? That's it? Yeah, it's like, that's it. There are like three options. It was like, you know, I've been really thriving lately. I am.
Lindsey 27:59
I am balancing it out. I'm not doing much, but what I am doing and doing well.
Courtney 28:04
Yeah. And sitting in joy. I'm connected. Yeah.
Lindsey 28:08
And keeping things really simple. I feel like simple. So, you know, the mindset coaching collective we talk in our monthly coaching, we talk a lot in my certification, we talked about this, but in the monthly coaching, we talk a lot about, our process to like, like prioritizing.
Lindsey 28:25
And like, again, I just think that allowing, you have to get yourself in the space where it is okay to do last. And you ask yourself, how? So instead of so like listeners if you want like one actionable thing? I think it's like asking yourself whatever's happening today, whatever you're feeling some kind of way about, that's not maybe super helpful.
Lindsey 28:53
How can you make it simpler? And I think the answer is really do it. This isn't like you said, this isn't like rocket science. This isn't like, none of this stuff is hard. It's cautious. They know that stuff is like complicated concepts, but to remember to do it, in the moment you need, it is really challenging.
Courtney 29:14
So hard.
Lindsey 29:15
And I think that's why we do listen to podcasts or we, have to try to get our routines or we try to have these things that we can rely on because it brings us back to these really simple concepts that like you said, they go deep if you just keep working on them.
Courtney 29:30
Yeah, and the steady drip of it. I like that. How can I simplify and maybe like what can I let go of? Like what is either a behavior or a thought pattern or a need to like do more? Can I choose to let go of that this week? And yet so much of this conversation was like, recovery.
Courtney 29:54
And the ironic thing, well, maybe we won't get into that too much. But the ironic thing too, is Like, when we do allow ourselves to rest and to recharge, and let go of things that are keeping us busy.
Courtney 30:08
We do so much better work.
Courtney 30:10
Oh my god, this is the irony of it all, you actually have more of an output. It's like, when we talk about mindfulness, people are like, I don't Well, we don't have time, but half of our time our attention is divided. So that gets better than you actually do have more time. So..
Lindsey 30:26
Yeah, we're multitasking. Yeah, I think it really does. To me, one of the most empowering things about this is like, this is all self-imposed, right? Like, having 10 things to do today, if you're in a good mindset, that you allowed yourself to make it as simple as possible, shifts your mindset to say I can do this, right.
Lindsey 30:53
And on the other side, you could have 10 things to do look at it, get totally overwhelmed, it feels so complicated, you don't even know where to start, maybe you procrastinate, make it worse, like that can exist in the same person. And it can exist with the exact same 10 tasks. Like it's not, these are things that we are doing to ourselves.
Lindsey 31:14
And I think so much of what we do as mindset coaches, is like allowing people to understand that they have a choice. That's where I think the allowing comes in is like, you can make these 10 things complicated. Or there can be a lightness to them, where you just you put down whatever it is you put down, maybe it's the expectations.
Lindsey 31:34
Maybe it's the overcomplicating it, maybe it's the just not allowing yourself to feel overwhelmed, just saying I'm gonna get the first thing done, and then I'm gonna do the second and I'm gonna do the third. And it's like, I think that that choice is so hard to recognize because it feels like truth. It feels like a fact. These 10 things are overwhelming. Period. Not I'm making them feel overwhelming. Right?
Courtney 32:02
Yeah, that's really good. That feels very true to me.
Lindsey 32:05
It does to me too, like, why we try to do these other things like meditate or workout or drinking, or whatever. Because what we bring to that situation matters.
Courtney 32:18
Yeah. And what we avoid usually gets bigger. So it's like when you're in the overwhelm, it just is like this snowball effect?
Lindsey 32:27
Yeah, you're totally
Courtney 32:29
Getting more and more overwhelming. Yeah.
Lindsey 32:31
I feel that with my certified students, and then they get paralyzed. Like, where do I even start this that I want to do is so and again, it comes down to like if they want to launch a product, and it's like, well, I have to have the website and app and what comes first and Baba Baba, and well, how can you make it simple?
Lindsey 32:48
Could you call 10 people and get them in this coaching program? What if you what if they paid through Venmo instead of through a fancy website? You know, it's like, we don't allow ourselves to do that. Because we want things we we secretly want things to be complicated. And then we don't actually have to get them done because they're too much.
Courtney 33:14
Exactly. I know, I'm already thinking about my to do list I've been avoiding because of this. So thanks for the coaching.
Lindsey 33:22
Okay, so what's one thing that you can? That's why we talked about, like, just asking yourself that question today? Like, if you're listening to this. And you're you're the coach, which you are, what? What would you have people?
Courtney 33:32
Oh, I'm waiting for me?
Lindsey 33:34
Well, I mean, what do you have to do? Or what would you have? Like, if you're listening? What would you have people? Sorry? Yeah, well, I think people that are listening to,
Courtney 33:41
I would have them, I'm gonna stick to the what can I let go of? And maybe one behavior and one thought pattern? That's like for me, you know, for me, it would be I need to have all of these things done today.
Courtney 33:55
And I'm going to take what you said, like, Hey, let me just do the one thing and then I'll do the next thing and not, I get overwhelmed by setting up the bank accounts and the payroll. And yet the backend stuff for me is tough. So that and then, yeah, a thought pattern.
Courtney 34:11
I think we get in these loops of like, it's not going to be ready if you don't have all this or I've got to have everything perfect or whatever that might be and it's just natural that our brain is gonna go to worst case when we care about something. So to just go okay, that's not serving me. Let me go to this. So what can what can they let go of this week? Yeah. And I'm in it with everyone.
Lindsey 34:34
I think that's what I was joking about, like having kids is like it. It's been the best thing for my business because I have to keep things simple. Like I really don't have I can't go over complicated things and I still do, but I have to come back to okay if I want to do these things and I can't do everything.
Lindsey 34:51
That like limitation really actually helps me which sounds really funny. But it's like I'm kind of this I have this other force that is like forcing me to keep in simple, and I think we all sort of have to take that prism of like, if I only had four hours today to work on whatever I want to work on, what would I work on? You know, because I can't do everything.
Lindsey 35:15
And I found that, like, so, so helpful. Because I think I get like a little adrenaline too, of like, okay, I'm gonna get these things done in this limited amount of time, instead of like, I have eight hours to just like, Oh, I'll get whatever I can do and like, Oh, I'd be the dishwasher. They'll come back. And then, and so for me, I think the simplicity helps me from a time management standpoint to.
Courtney 35:41
Amen. Yeah, this has been incredibly inspiring for me.
Lindsey 35:45
I know, these simple concepts about things being simple.
Courtney 35:50
Yeah, it is. Yeah, exactly. It is why I like podcasts, though. Because it's just like a steady drip of like, Oh, yeah. Okay, cool. It's just one of that. Yeah.
Lindsey 35:58
So I mean, I think I imagine that some people listening to this have also had their own, like, what's going through their, like filters of processing this information to and have probably come up with some really inspiring ways to apply it in their own lives. So anyway, I think that's really cool. Thanks for riffing on this with me.
Lindsey 36:19
Yeah. Final thing is one, where can people find you?
Courtney 36:25
Yes, my, I'm not on too many social media platforms. But my Instagram is CTHOMP_3. And then we have a website coming up. It's called Welcometotheforce.com. I'm pretty fired up about it.
Lindsey 36:41
Yeah, I know. We're gonna do a whole thing.
Courtney 36:43
Yeah. I'm excited.
Lindsey 36:46
Awesome. And then okay, people want to hire you. What would they hire you to do? And who would that be?
Courtney 36:52
Yeah. So I work with individuals and teams, a pretty wide range, a lot of volleyball, doing on-the-court stuff, and then kind of a hybrid of, hey, here's some mindset skills. Now let's go apply them in the gym. So it looks like 30 minutes in the classroom, on the court, whatever.
Courtney 37:07
And then we would go play for 30 minutes trying to apply these ideas of competence and control. And then I'm also working with a lot of college teams, many sports, so just anyone really, that's wanting to be their best and wanting to condition their mind a little bit more. Helping them be present and embrace challenges is what it's all about.
Lindsey 37:26
Well, you're a great coach. All right. Well, Courtney is going to be on regularly you're gonna co-host.
Courtney 37:31
Yeah, I'm so excited.
Lindsey 37:33
Hey, guys, if you have any ideas on topics, we should cover Instagram, I'm, what am @Lindsaypositiveperform on Instagram. So you can hit me up or hit up Courtney.
Lindsey 37:44
And we have the Mindset Coach Academy certification program opening early 2023. So if you want to be a mindset coach, or add to your existing credentials, as a mindset, coach, come on over. We launched that once, usually once a year. And we gotta wait lists go on. So come on over to positiveperformance. training.com Get on the waitlist. Because spots are limited. So all right. I think that's it. Anything else?
Courtney 38:13
No. Excited for next time.
Lindsey 38:15
Yeah. We got to get our topic. I think I might have a couple of things already on my list. All right, guys, everyone had a great day. And thanks, Courtney. And we'll see you next time.
Lindsey 38:27
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Lindsey 38:40
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Lindsey 38:57
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Lindsey 39:22
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